Comments:Chaos Empire introduces more value for members

[ChaosEmpire]

I remember that, if you have donated before 08.July 2006, and you dont have the  :don: as avatar
Write a PM with info, so we will find the reason, why you arent listed

For example, some paypal user didnt send information about donation, and so I cant map the accname

Also from today, we will mix a membership fee (30€ per year) with additional donation, with 100 members, the main server will be paid, and only the main one...

Calculation in Begin of 2006:
300 Donators á 10€ = 3000€ / 12 month = 250€ per month = rent of main server (3 virtual game servers)
We dont have 300 donators, we dont have >=250€ each month, so I will still spend my money on top

Caclulation July 2006
100 Members á 30€ = 3000€ / 12 month = 250€ per month = rent of main server (3 virtual game servers)
(I still will need to pay on top, cause the per user ratio is surely not 30€)

[T1001]

die 100 mit denen zu jetzt aktuell kalkuliert hast, sind da diejenigen die grade noch ce spielen? sprich wenn alle donators zur gleichen zeit on wären, dann wären es 100 spieler?

[ChaosEmpire]

wir haben rund 600 aktive momentan...die meisten sind aber non-donators..wobei sich das momentan gerade aendert...

[Strontkop]

And what happens to the people that can/do not pay? Will they still be able to play on with their characters?

[T1001]

nee ich meinte aktive donators, die 600 sind dann aktive spieler also sowohl spender als auch nicht-spender.

[Strontkop]

Sorry my ger is not so good ;-)

I just want to know if I, a non-donator, will be able to continue playing? I hear rumours on the server that those who not pay will be kicked off, or have to start a new character on another (laggy) server.

Thx for your time and teh best d2 mod out there ;-)

[ChaosEmpire]

hi strontkop (btw netherlands??)

the old realm will be open as before, but i will move most of the servers into the donators area
next month 2 big servers will get lossed, cause of no money
and i think you will understand that people who donated will get a bonus versus non-donators

we have reallylong time tried to avoid such steps, but ther eis no chance, over and over asking...and most of the players not doing (mostly european people)

so today we need to make this step
surely the ressources for the free one will decrease, but it will be open, to give all a chance to see the gameplay online, and if you like it..you can donate, and move over to the donators area

[Strontkop]

Yo im from netherlands ;-) Perhaps u remember me from long ago, when I played some too and chatted with u too a bit.

First of all ofcourse I understand your actions, thats 100% ok with me. The scene has become a lot bigger in a year, and servers cost money, its very simple. I have seen this mod grow and grow, and its only getting bigger ;-) I have 3 questions now :

I understand that the non-donators can still play on, but on a less quality server with perhaps some lag? Is this right?
Can we bring our characters to the donator server if we decide to become donators?
Is there any way to pay you when I do not have a credit card?

Thx again for your time ;-)

[ChaosEmpire]

hi

first, i assume that it could get laggy, or that you get lists and waiting times
also, less servers mean..one crash..much less redundancy, so surely not as good overall performance, probably with less lags(i will reduce game amount, if to laggy, better lagfree and 10games, than 20 games, and unplayable for all)

its a ladder reset like, on the new realm, so we wont move characters,...new challanges :)
also, updates will come for donators in future, unknown, if and when for free part

in europe you can transfer money via bank without additional fee, see needed numbers in Impressum

[mrmud]

Hi

Do you have a start date for new donator realm?

Your last post: { its a ladder reset like, on the new realm, so we wont move characters,...new challanges} , does this mean the characters we are currently playing will be no longer and will start fresh?

Will there be a new download for this?

last: given the cost of servers, how many donators currently and what would be the cost (donation per account) to maintain servers? I understand that when "new donators" come on line they pay same amount or will the fees be adjusted.

PS:  will this be a yearly donation or monthly?

Thanks
Kim
The Wonderful MrMud

[ChaosEmpire]

hi kim

look at my post..on top..there should all your question be answered :P

[ZenPdH]

So if i understand this correct, donators and non-donators are no longer able to play together?

U mentioned a ladder reset... Will the reset only affect the donators? -> 2 ladders?

[ChaosEmpire]

the donators are on completly other machines

they also can still play on the other realm, if they like

[ZenPdH]

Ok, so if a donator wants to play on a server with less performance, he/she is free to do so ::)

But what is with the ladder(s)? A lot of people like the challenge of beeing first/best/whatever...
Is this challenge still be given for all or seperated in donators and non-donators?

U also mentioned updates (only) for donators, so i guess different verions != one ladder?

[ChaosEmpire]

2 different frontends = 2 different realms = 2 ladders

For the updates, if there will be huge bugs, I surely fix them on both, if there are improvements, new things, the donators will get them, the non-donators..probably later, we tried a half year to make this without any kind of "rules", didnt work, so we needed to split a big community into 2 half, this makes me unhappy, but I will be more unhappy, if current donators blame me, for bad gameplay, cause they helped all of us before

Ladder Reset on Non-Donators will follow, currently no date is planned (ladder is less than 4 month oild)