Topic: Good Bye All!

[Darkkatgirl]

Hey just wanted some of the regulars who see me online in the CCC and my friends online to know that I will not be logging onto the CCC anymore.   HC is unplayable and I only like to play that now.  I'll still be on the forums still but not in mulitplayer anymore. 

Chaos, you have my username/pass.  Feel free to just delete my CCC account when you have the time. 

Was fun while it lasted all!

[DrowElf]

It makes me sad to read this.

[ChaosEmpire]

also i dont uinderstand this message...sp2 is released, with same values like before sp1...
so i dont think that the unplayble is the true reason..

[Darkkatgirl]

@ Chaos

The character speed in SP 2 is not identical to 7.66 base movement speed. 

I'll give you an example of how the movement change ruined hardcore.  Ever try to dodge lava maws while your moving so slowly?  They do alot of damage as is and spray a good part of the screen.  Before the slowed movement you could barely make it out of the acid alive.  Now its certain death.

Yes the SP's altered movement is the only reason, the new movement makes hardcore impossible (and not fun) to play.

I'm not trying to cause trouble.  I just do not like the "adjustment" to player movement and it ruined the game for me and I hope im the only one who feels that way. 

I loved the mod prior to 7.66 SP 1 =^.^=

[webwalker]

DarkKatGirl...

We played last night, and (true) Lava maws were not fun, they never have been.  You ran a tank-a-sorc, I ran a strafe-a-zon.  We were mid-40's to early 50's, and ran into Lava maws in the catacombs.  Due to a difference in playing styles, you took more high-damage hits than I. (I use decoy to find where the enemy is and to distract them while I deal with them).  The highest damage hits I recall you taking was from the lightning balls of the Tainted class deamons, not the barf from Lava maws.

I never tried SP1, I was in high-priority distractions all Easter weekend and barely got onto the forum with at most minimal playing, which apparently was not on server 4.  I note that SP2 run/walk seems some, but not much, slower than 7.66; not enough slower to make-or-break HC playability (I also am HC only).  I just don't use a Blitzkrieg/Banzai playing style when alone.

So I hope to see you online...

[Darkkatgirl]

@ Webby

LOL yeah I play wild, guess thats why everyone at my dorm calls me "wild child" :-p but seriously I took damage cause my resists in LR were barely over 10 and I had very very junky gear.  The only thing that kept me alive against tainted and fire arrow archers in Act II was the fact that I could run with all my charms. 

Im talking about a fresh new character in PoC who doesn't have a high level char to mule 150% worth frw charms just to move at a normal speed.  Thats what makes it unplayable. 

I'll definitely miss playing with everyone.

[Fingerpicker]

You have to play very slowly in HC, this is the only way to get a char up to the 80 s or 90 s.
If resists dont fit theres no chance, i still think the mod is based on SC....like i wrote in feedback.
I m playing this mod continuous with a lot of changes, and you `ll have to allow for all possibillities to get a chance in HC.
And i understand that newer players often get frusrated by this.

[SnowMaid]

i hope you chance your words to give hc playing off
it was alwasy many funy to play with you
and i was miss you when you go
but you must go your own way

but i always hope i see you you on hc too play togehter
and fight the evil forces

also bis denn
und las dir den spaß nicht nehmen 
grüße

Svenja

[ChaosEmpire]

you should never forget, that HC is for players, who are bored of playing SC...but SC means CE SC...

This means, you know, about all items, about new monsters, and also of all theother things..
So HC is for players, who are near perfect gear,tactic players...

[knoetel]

"So HC is for players, who are near perfect gear,tactic players..."

wow .. i guess i am a pretty brave noob then : P or only one lucky fella ...

@darkkatgirl:

i think u should really overthink ur decision ... hc already does not have a big group of gamers .. so everyone that leaves is a loss ...

i just player for 5 minutes after sp2 , but i think that "refilled" base movement speed gives a better chance to play now!
i think u should just try and really try to change your strategy ... when i started everyone told me to "Look carefully" before u run into groups of monsters ( okay .. i actually dont, but i havent died 1 time yet in 2 ladders .. guess im one lucky dude ^^)

i think u should maybe stop for a week and the start a HUGE comeback : P

knoetel

[bdpf]

@Darkkatgirl

Old gummy says BYE

Sorry we nevr played together

Good luck with your studies.

bdpf aka Snuffy

[Darkkatgirl]

My strategy is fine.  I never really played anything except Amazons and Assassins before CE.  I have a had characters reach 80+ HC before and I have a Golemancer that is almost lvl 80 (lost interest in playing him after I couldnt gamble Full Trangs in over 2 weeks with almost non-stop gambling) 

I got tired of seeing Frozen Orb / M. Swarm / Nova sorc's so I wanted to try a sorc I saw (the Lightning Fury Sorc) which was the "Wild" sorc webby was talking about.
Was... different is all I can say ^.^

Also when the ladder reset, I had a amazon who was #2 in the ladder for some time.  I deleted her to prove a point to my friends that ladder stats mean nothing.  (ladder would mean something if it was a constant battle to the top and if top person could be "challenged" but all it is right now is a race to 100 and then that character "retires" so account owner can brag) 

But you don't need "super" gear to survive in HC.  Gear and things like Farn's/ogden's just enhance your character.  If you character build ever depends on those things to work, then it is a bad build.  (and yes the amazon was over lvl 30 too)

But the perma decrepify (or new speed) gives the monsters too much of an advantage.  Also I recall a discussion about trying to make melee more common on CCC.  Slowing down toons only encourages RANGED play to surive.  Kind of a step backwards if you ask me.

[bdpf]

@Darkkategirl

GROAN Your back or never left!  
(Have fun in SP build good merc's.)
IF your still here it is all right to toss green apples.

IF your GONE take the sower apples with you!

To whine after you leave da  What does that make you

SOO GOOD BYE! Good luck! See you some time! ( I ment this for real)

FiNi

bdpf  (This not a flame, maybe small worm ember & little smoke)

A flame is three foot high or higher   

[webwalker]

DarkKatGirl mentioned that she would stay in the forum, and play SP ver 7.66 SP0.  Also invited other SP players to TCP with her.  She's OK.

I want to keep this forum board free and clean of personal/personalty comments; we can disagree, even sharply, without verbal razors (or pipe wrenches).

Toss me apples, I'll boil them with sugar & cinnamon until they're a nice goopy sauce, and stir in the whine.  *Killer* sauce on pork chops.

We play nice, OK?

[Darkkatgirl]

@ Webby

Thanks webby, nice to see some people actually read prior posts before trying to flame.

[Sorky]

hey, Kat!

I aggree with you! 

I have loaded sp2 for a try, but as of now, it seems to slow to play hc with it. I will make some speed tests when I get a chance, but I am so busy with the house, it could take some time to figure out.

I did check it out for about 5 minutes my lvl 80+ necro, with about 110 run speed and he seemed  about as fast as a level 1 paladin with his 40 speed boots.
 
I didn't die once last ladder which was a first for me.  This was due mainly to getting the timing down to attack the Maws and escaping  before the massive vomit hit and killed me.  (I also died twice to the corpse explosion bug while at the ancients), but I don't count those. 

To me, run speed is not an option.  You either have it or you play a gimped character, after all why do we carry fr charms and wear boots like bartucs.  As the game gets harder as we level up, we need to be more defensive, and this requires speed.  To nerf the speed is to nerf the whole balance of the game.  Hit and run, in and out, is the nature of this game to most classes.  Hit, kill, kill, take damage, drink and run,,,, rinse and repeat.

Run speed also effects the very basic pace of the game. This is a very fast paced game.  It was designed this way and CE has made the pace even faster.  If you take your eyes off the screen for even a moment while out in the field, you could get attacked from an off screen rush and die before you could even react.  I think run speed is at the very root of this game, and without it, the game suffers to the point, that My necro now feels like one of the zombies out in the moor, slow, ponderous and near death.

CE if you think run speed needs to be nerfed, why not put a cap on it and let the little guys keep their speed.  We need it to reach CGS.  I have seen speeds over 200 which is really fast, and it does help escape, but it is also dangerous as you can easily overrun your ablility to fend off to many monsters.  I suggest capping the high end of speed and let us little guys be able to run away to fight another day.

@Kat  Please stick around, I enjoy your company and smart wit. 
Just ignore the witless flames as they can only scorch the ones that set them.

This to shall pass,,,,to what I am not sure, as this mod is ever evolving.  I feel that this is a good time for me to be busy with the house and not having much time for the game as I am not sure I would be willing to risk my characters death.

GL to you,
Sorky