Decyphering the Doll Stash

[Bubonous]

After doing some hellforge testing and getting a fair % of Andariel dolls I was curious as to whether or not they are particularly valuable for the doll stash.  First I tried putting in nothing but hellforge Andariel dolls into the doll stash:

(information deleted at Steven's request)


Merry Christmas and Happy Doll Collecting

[T1001]

we will see, if other people want to know the secret of the stash.

i for myself do not want it, because its the mystic, that you dont know what is coming next. and when you put a few k dolls it will be great without knowing the best combination.

in adidtion to that, 105 andariel dolls are possible in sp but in mp wihtout duping it will be a litte bit more different i think^^

[ChaosEmpire]

also he didnt tested what happens when doll X is used...skil X raises..but what happens with Skill Y ...muahahahaha

[webwalker]

Thanks for the info steve!

Since I'm online only, I won't be able to contribute any analysis.

I'm not sure what Chaos was driving at... there are times I can't decypher him...

I wonder if there are doll sequences that are best.  If I had a clue, I'd happily store a few dozen dolls to put htem in in the most benificial order to build the best stash.

[DrowElf]

He means that some dolls will increase value(s) and decrease other value(s) at the same time.

This is the reason, why you can´t use this testing rows if you cube the dolls into the stash without having great numbers of the needed doll.

Cubing one single other doll in the dollstash can change the results.

[Bubonous]

I also take it that Chaos means that while a doll adds points towards benefit X it may very well subtract points accumulated for benefit Y.  Negative effects are harder to test and would have to be looked at much later.  Chaos has hinted in the past that we may not want to put dolls from the hellforge in the doll stash.  If and when I get to the point of looking for negative effects, that will be a good place to start.

I guess I love the puzzle, so instead of playing I've gotten results for these six other dolls now.

(information removed at Steven's request)

[bdpf]

  :wece: :s513:

What about the gold, anitcent waytest dolls,<SMILE>

Doll stash takes up too much room in inventory for the benafites...... :s513:

Needs to be smaller (4) square not Six (6)... :s513:

Personely I just have a vast collection in shared stash... SP of coarse

Waiting for someone to find a good use for them other than the stash....

Like use with a morpf forula to add extra points to an Item bouns / SET Item, etc

EXAMPLEL... Use ten xyz dolls + ten P Skulls + Ten Oils x(or body parts) to add lech points to weapon <SMILE>

Just find something to do with them<GRIN> Doll Stash is weak / poor use for collectable item

Of coarse I just mainly wack monsters.

bdpf

[back2toxic]

dont forget about limited space in the txt files, also dont forget that there is not much left/nothing left.
so chaos wont waste this needed space for recipes you can already do, maybe not in the form you want it, but ya know..temp'rin'

[AoATheAvenger]

look, it's simply unintresting which dolls have what effect. because 1. you dont have an amount of like 100 andariel dolls in MP, 2. you dont know how these dolls work negativly on another effect

-> just put the dolls in the stash however they drop from your eggs (thats actually also how it was supposed to be handled) =)

[Bubonous]

I would have responded earlier, but for some reason it has been days since I was last able to log into the forums.

The purpose of this thread was to share information as I got it and possibly to get information back from other people.  Now that my investigation is done (at least for now) and I have a guide written, this thread is no longer needed.  Some of the questions raised here are answered in the FAQ in my guide which should be posted shortly (assuming I don't lose forum access again).

[webwalker]

Dear Steve;

Inasmuchas anybody with a puppenkeiste would like to know what you discovered, would you be so kind as to edit your post to include al ink to your guide?

[ChaosEmpire]

it would be nearly worthless :P

[webwalker]

Unless you're being exceptinally cryptic, a map of dolls to skills could be worthwhile... my necro might want to get all dolls of a group, while handing off all dolls of another group (which perhaps the Zon wants).

See.. the necro couldn't care about getting AD nor LR, but would like other skills (i've just never gotten enough dolls to see them on my 'Keists), so dolls that accelerate getting LR or AD are 'junk food' for the necro's 'Keist, but are tasty and healthful for the Zons' or Paladins'.

[sunglass]

Hi, nice idea
have you also testet what happens if you use random dolls and only doll 45 kaa the soulless, 89 alkor etc?

[Kano]

Nice work. At least I kinda have a clue on which dolls to use to get a certain skill.

Where is the Guide?

Kano