Topic: Decyphering the Doll Stash

[Kano]

Hmmmm, seems like your hard work has created a cultural problem here:
Somehow, German-users seem to see your work as "duping". US-users like you, Brian, and me tend to think of this as a scientific experiment. This "black-or-white" mentality is something I still don't understand about Germany, despite living here for over 20 years.

Anyways, Chaos told us to leave the stash a mystery. We should respect his wishes and close the topic here.

Kano

[Bubonous]

Thank you, webwalker, for bringing this to an end.

(mod: I'm going to tone down the temperature of the language in this thread)
(Along with the "no duping" rule is the rule that we are a happy family together)
(I'll act after some thought so I'm not injecting my own emotion here).

[webwalker]

@kano: Agreed.  Although I'm "moderator" of this board, I can't lock the thread.  *sigh*

[ChaosEmpire]

for me it does not look like th result of an experiment, it looks like hacking the bin files (and...those only half way...)

to prevent confusion and to prevent upraising trade prices for some dolls, mentioned in that guide, i unpublished it...

no one of you will ever be able to get the functionallityonly by putting dolls in it..

the only way to decipher would be to hack the bin file(or to get my txt)

there are many things, depending what happens
character class, time when cubed, difficulty where you cubed it and more...

all this is not covered by the "guide", so it is only a guide to raise market prices, and will probabkly frustrate some people, buying expensive dolls, and not getting the wanted results...

[Bubonous]

I did not hack bin files.  I don't even know what they are.  I simply don't have the skills presently to hack bin files.

I have no problem with the unpublishing of the guide.  Had I known that you did not want it published, I wouldn't have.

I did exactly what I described.  I put dolls that I had collected into the shared stash.  I backed up files.  I put the dolls into a fresh doll stash with a level 1 assassin created specifically for that purpose in normal difficulty.  I restored the shared stash and repeated until I had the desired number of dolls cubed.

All of the factors which you say I did not account for, I could test for, but I don't think we want to get any further into the mechanics of the doll stash, do we?  Though if you want, I can test and report back in vague generalities on whether or not I saw differences from difficulty level or character type.  I will happily admit flaws in my past work when I find them.

[ChaosEmpire]

hi steve

i respect your work

but when i tell you, that myself needs ~ 10-15minutes to find out, what doll does what effect when i put it in the box..in this moment...
you can believe me, that you can make a double long guide, and it wont help anyone...

the guide remembered me a little bit on jarufls guide for d1, and i really respect it..but most info in it has been worthless for the public...
only a few "cracks" have been able to get information from 90% of the text

so, if the public wants the guide i reactivate it...
but, i can only think, it will raise doll prices...

[Bubonous]

Thanks for being a gracious host, Chaos.

Part of the purpose of the guide was to drum up interest in the doll stash.  It certainly is a marvelous invention.  Too many people think that it is worthless, when in fact it is far from it.  I think it is okay for me to say that I've seen +4 all skills, +10 battle orders, and +14 valkyrie among many other useful features (but it takes a lot of dolls).  All it takes is time and it takes far less time to get that than it does to get a legit Zod in vanilla D2LOD.

In that spirit, I will test under other circumstances.  For now people should assume that the guide is flawed due to not being tested for unforeseen factors -- character class, difficulty level, etc.  Should I get comfortable with the results and decide to put them into guide format for publishing, then I will send you a private message.  Approval of posting of a new guide will be at your discretion.  The community simply will not know anything about what I am doing with the doll stash unless and until everything is done, things look good, and it meets with your approval.

Sound good?

[ChaosEmpire]

you really should wait for new version...everything changes..like every version

[HCSoul]

I am still lucky with this mystery as it is.
yesterday i got +2 Allskills and i was so happy about this surprise
Its like some kind of casino...i enjoy this action

Greetz

[mrmud]

I met this Doll but she would'nt get in my Puppenkiste ... still a mystery

[Olfmo]

perhaps it is now impossible to put hellforge and a5q2 dolls in the doll stash?

i can't check right now but perhaps that's the reason

which doll did you try to use?

[webwalker]

"doll" == "interesting girl"

Problem is he didn't press the correct "transmute" button sequence.