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jbtilley:
Ha ha.  You take the butcher on with a lvl 15-16 sorc.  I guess I could have spent a month leveling to 30 to still get it handed to me - but I'd rather use that time to advance in the game.

webwalker:

--- Quote from: sa-tye on August 31, 2005, 02:08:43 pm ---Say jbtilley, Why are you complaining? You are playing CHAOS EMPIRE !! The name speaks for itself. That is the point, the challenge, to conquer what ever is placed before you. With skill, cunning or down right Power. This game is made for True players, You have to Think and figure it out!! That is the enjoyment and why so many people love it. The obstacles can be conquered. If you apply yourself you will win!!

--- End quote ---

LOL! @sa-tye, you're hysterical.  In soft core, and wired on drugs, and bored to tears, I *might* agree to apply this logic to The Butcher being in Cat 4 and loose without deliberate player action to confront him. 

In HardCore, a one-hit-kill, like The Butcher is, that is not avoidable (e.g. when The Butcher lets himself out of his room) is a bug in the game design or implementation.

I have seen the Butcher's door, in Cat 4, MANY times, open without my having gone near it (I peek from as far away as I can).  If the Butcher spawns near enough to the door to "see" it and use it to close with me, this is a one-hit-kill for ANY character that is at the proper level for questing in Cat 4 Normal.

(sometimes Monsters will open doors... I've been in Cat4 several times where I open one door between two rooms, and the mosnters will open the other door.  This is going into the room that has the Butcher's Chamber in it.)

The Butcher should be in the Crypt beneath Tristram, along with Leo.  Or with The Seven.

(Leo's capital in Diablo I was Triistram, no?  Where was the Butcher's hang-out in Diablo I?)

Idea: when The Butcher leaves his room let the message appear in words, pop-up, and sound: "The Butcher has declared hostility towards you"...

....just to let us know...

ChaosEmpire:
The Butcher is on a tile, as far as possible from the door.
also he has the not move flag, so the game wont place him randomly in a range around the designed point

i never will believe that the butcher will be placed outside of the room without opening the door...and yes, i saw mercs and mosnters opening the doors...but the door is on the other side..so normaly you can go on left side and leave butcher a good old man...and visit him little bit later..or with lvl18 psy assa :P

agnostic:
no chaos...one time I was lvling my assassin at the catacombs (without merc/summons/other players) i opened the door to the big room and he stood there, waiting for me...
he WAS there without any opened doors etc...

Olfmo:
i have to agree here... the butcher definitely was outside his jail some times even if nobody was there before... we just entered the big room and he stood there waiting for us :)

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