Topic: Question about piercing immunities

[Lotus]

I´m using a act 1 merc cause of the sanctuary aura (i play hardcore and had bad issues with skellarchers in the past at hell). Here you can choose between fire and ice, i preffer fire because ice leaves you most time without a corpse for the deathsentry.

If you have the unique charm with freezes target, you also have a good chance to pierce random immunities of enemies, therefor i don´t miss the cold damage at this time. I´m a1 start of hell at the moment.

You posted this in another thread.

My question is about "you also have a good chance to pierce random immunities of enemies"

This charm gives you this chance? How does this chance work? do any other items give you such a chance?

I have seen monsters with immunities, that suddenly lose them for no apparent reason... could this be due to this charm? or is it something else?

I am VERY curious on this topic, if anyone else has something to add, please be my guest.

[ZenPdH]

For some reason u r able to pierce random immunities with the ability to freeze an enemy. The charm or cham rune gives u that ability. Also some skills have that ability (freezing arrow, glacial spike, ...).

So if u have one of the skills or the charm / cham and u hit an enemy and freeze him up, in most cases he will loose his random immunity (if he is imune to cold that it surely doesn't work ).

Hope that helps u a little bit.

[Lotus]

yes i figured that it had something to do with the freezing effect.

another question on that.

i noticed that this mod, has varies values, Freezes Target , Freezes Target +3 and so forth,  what is the differance between say a Freeze target item, and a Freeze target +3 item? and can / does it effect this immunity peircing?

[ZenPdH]

As far as i know, the +3 just indicates how long the target will be frozen.
The normal length is 2 (secs) i believe and is just shown as 'freezes target', everything that is above 2 will be shown as 'freezes target +x'. There should be no differance in the effects except the length.

That's how i explain it to myself.
Hope that i get it right

[Olfmo]

i found the following explanation at indiablo.de i try to translate the gist of the whole thing:

2.10.3) Treffer friert ziel ein / Hit Freezes Target / freeze
Dieser Effekt bringt einen Gegner zum Stillstand.
Die prozentuale Chance CtF betraegt
CtF = 5 * (Bonus * 4 + atLvl - dfLvl) + 30
Im Fernkampf wird dieser Wert gedrittelt.
Die Dauer betraegt einen zufaelligen Wert zwischen 27 und 2 * CtF + 25 in Frames.
Beim Einsatz von Multischuss / MS wirkt HFT nur fuer den oder die beiden mittleren Pfeil(e) des Faechers.
Funktioniert auch mit Smite.

the chance to freeze ctf is 5 * (Bonus * 4 + atLvl - dfLvl) + 30  i assume the bonus is for example three if there is freezes target +3, what atlvl and dflvl is i don't know i try to look it up
the freezing time is a random value between 27 and 2*ctf +25 frames

the other sentences don't matter right now -.-

/edit: found it
atLvl Level des Angreifers (attacker level)
dfLvl Level des Angegriffenen (defender level).

should be clear now

[ZenPdH]

Ok, sry for saying something wrong about that, thought it was so easy

But Olfmo, what is the bonus of an item which gives 'freeze target', without giving a specific value (for the bonus)? Is it just 1?

[Olfmo]

i would assume it's one but i will search for some information about that

[blueman]

hi,

should be 1, because i haven't seen any items which give freeze target +1, only with +x.

kind regards blueman

[Olfmo]

well i just found out that Buriza-Do Kyanon got freezes target +3 although there's only "freezes target" on the display... so it seems to be not always one but different on every item... that's not really helpful... damn you blizzard guys^^

[ZenPdH]

Hehe, thank u for ur work / help anyway!

[Shinlos]

I think the +x is only shown on the new Items from Talonrage Plugin.