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Which monster is MOST HATED/Welches Monster ist Ihr GEHASSTESTES?

Lava Maw/acids biest
43 (48.3%)
Oblivion/Steel Knight (Iron Maiden)
8 (9%)
Undead Stygian Doll (suicide bombers)
5 (5.6%)
Fanaticism-enhanced Frenzy minotaur
3 (3.4%)
Whatever is right at the bottom of the stairs (Stair Trap)
9 (10.1%)
Anything Physical AND Magic immune
5 (5.6%)
Not listed above...
3 (3.4%)
Who cares? Kill them all, let Chaos sort them out!
6 (6.7%)
Boss Archers & Pack when Aura Enhanced
7 (7.9%)

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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2005, 09:58:02 pm »
Acid beasts are god dammned 8[

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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2005, 09:59:42 pm »
Poll is closed.

It ran for just over a week, and got 60+ votes, of which nearly half named the same critter as Most Hated Monster.

As an analyst of things that intrigue me, (and Chaos Empire is high on that list!), I consider any critter that got fewer votes than "kill them all, let Chaos sort them out" to be within proper game balance.  Critters that got more votes than "kill them all" appear imbalanced to the community.  Lava Maws are apparently an extreme example of an imbalanced monster.

What, then, should we recommend to our Clan Patriarch, Chaos Energy, regarding Lava Maws?
My inputs:
1: Lava Maw spit should lose intensity or duration or both; Lava Maws should lose high blocking or high life or both.  They should leave a corpse than can be horked or raised as a skeleton.  (worst possible counter-notion: Lava Maw Shamen (Lava Lords) that raise dead Lava Maws again and again and ... )

2: Areas near Stairs should not alllow that monsters spawn there.  I don't have a clue how to make this modification besides putting in doors and walls around the stairs and making that area of the map "level 1".

Please post your ideas about what changes should occur in the Lava Maw.

I solicit inputs about the other top Most Hated Monsters:

Iron Maiden:  I rarely run melee characters, and when I do I always choose a back-up skill using missiles or spells so Iron Maiden is never a bother to me except I have to raise my melee merc because his AI is more A than I.

Aura Enhanced Boss Archer Packs: I *always* max the skill "run like a panic-stricken cheetah" and use it around these monsters unless they're in the path to a quest, and then try to tease the minions and others away from the boss and kill them one at a time.  Taunt is a skill beyond value in this, because it never gets the boss to follow you, just the minions and others enjoying the aura.  Still, they do scare me quite a bit because of their range.

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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2005, 10:52:56 pm »
Maybe the lawa maws were ment as very strong monsters ?

But let Chaos say what he thinks on whether to weaken the maws or not

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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2005, 08:26:18 am »
i will only increase the chance for big seas of acid when they die...is it what you want?


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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2005, 10:34:32 am »
very very funny -.-



Although LavaMaws are "the most hated monsters" , they should not be changed... there need to be monster like them to make the game demandingly!

But in my opinion let them leave a corpse would be a usefull think :)
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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2005, 10:38:58 am »
nope  i wont see necromancers with them as revived


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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2005, 02:51:43 pm »
btw I think there are monsters which leave a corpse, but can not be used as revives. But if they would leave a corpse, a necro could easily kill them with ce

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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2005, 06:39:27 am »
trotzdem deutsch^^

hi

das einzig mir halbwegs verhasste monster, sind die maws, weil die das game mörder laggy machen.

ansonsten, alles i.o.

am meissten mag ich hexen-meuten, wegen des netten xp´s^^.



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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2005, 09:45:23 am »
die hexenmobs in lvl 12 sind lustig, gerade als Ama, nicht wahr eye? :D



was mich an den mavs nervt, ist dass ihre pützen nen netten stunlock verursachen und sie im sinners und nasty so derbst viel leben haben :(
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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2005, 10:55:07 am »
also so manche chars können an den dingern echt verzweifeln da unten... FA ist ein nettes mittel gegen die, aber auch das dauert halt... ne psy bekommt die recht schnell tot, ein cry barb scheint damit wiederrum probleme zu haben, was ich bisher so gesehen hab :)
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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2005, 01:50:36 pm »
ich hasse die dinger zwar auch aber is irgendwie lustich wenn man die dicken moonlords umhaut und vor den viechern wegläuft!

btw: @chaos: ich hoffe dein erster kommentar war ein witz ich weiss sowieso nich wie man auf so eine idee kommt..

theoretisch wär ich für weniger mobs , aber alle mionster mehr an die stärke der maws ran,aber interressiert jac 3eh keinen...

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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2005, 04:33:13 pm »
was du willst keine mobs mehr?

also nru starke mosnter?

schonmla was von abwechslung gehört

wenn jedes monster wie maws ist bekommste nie mehr einen gegner tot


btw kein wuder das ein cryer die nicht platt bekommt, der hat max 42k dmg
ne psyassel 100k OHNE cast delay (nicht falsch verstehen die soll kein cd bekommen^^)
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Re: What is your MOST HATED monster
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2005, 04:55:38 pm »
ne ich meinte nich dass alle so wie maws sein sollten, nur sollte der unterschied an life und dam nicht so groß sein
(dam is nich sooo hoch, nur halt auf fläche und auf zeit)

eben is wieder einer in kathe norm bei den viechern gerippt, war zwar nurn blöder baba trotzdem ärgerlich!

mobs sind okay, starke monsis sind okay
lava maws mobs sind nicht okay!!! (baal kammer...)

abgesehn ,dass sie eindeutig unbalanced sind mag ich die viecher wegen diablo1!!

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