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symfora:
Hello,

Last week Joe asked me to test the free realm, leveling a character to level 50 (maximum level at the free realm). While I did not notice any bugs or showstoppers during the questing from Act1 POC up to Act1 LR, I did make a few observations:

1a. stamina (ausdauer)

The first issue I noticed was the lack of stamina and dito walk/run speed. Being totally without any items, other characters and bodyparts (tails), I quickly ditched the necro (probably the slowest character of them all) and chose an assassin (burst of speed and two simpleton katars with 50% faster run/walk make a huge difference!).

If you have been playing for a while (and if you collected tails and characters to gamble boots with heal stamina 50% faster, charms with increase maxima stamina, etc) this is not too much of an issue. But since the free realm is meant for people to get a first impression of the game, the low stamina and walk/run speed, and larger-than-normal stamina drain, can easlily be a deal-breaker, or at the least a very frustrating first experience.

2. start items (known issue)

In Free realm, the stone and horadrim scrolls generate random set items of the item types one would get in single player/donator realm. The recipe for 1 horadrim scroll can easily be abused to obtain an impressive collection of set rings (and gold) even before killing a single monster.
Not having the 40% faster run/walk starter boots is even worsening the stamina/speed malus mentioned in 1a.

3. baal

Baal seemed to have more life regeneration than I remember from the old public realm and the donators realm. It was almost impossible to kill him because he recovered hitpoints incredibly fast. Baal's minions were a piece of cake for my psychic hammer assassin. I have talked to various people who got stuck at Baal being unable to defeat him. Did something change here?

4. level 50 limit

The level 30 skills can only have 20 points assigned. The level 24 skills can only have 26 points assigned. This cripples builds that rely on maxing those skills. Even when using farnhams, one can't raise these skills to their maximum level.
This is not necessarily a bug, just an observation that you may or may not have been aware of. With a level 60 hard limit, every skill can be used up to skill level 30.

5. containers

Hardly anyone seems to know about gembags, oil barrels and bodyparts containers, and where to get them.
Most players find out about these from senior players. On the free realm the blind are leading the blind.

6. tempering

On the free realm, not a lot of people realize the potential of tempering, creating sockets with gems, gambling etc.
Again, most players learn about this by looking at senior players' equipment.
Many times new users follow the LOD strategy: uniques, set items and untempered runeword items, missing out on what makes CE stand out most amongst the various mods. I've met various people who didn't even collect gems, oils and bodyparts because of point 5 and 6.

Conclusion:
The Free realm seems to work bug free, but there is room for improvement.

Suggestions:
- Increase the base run/walk speed of characters, adding at least 100 stamina to each new character, and/or reducing stamina drain.
- Verify that Baal is not too hard for newbies.
- Consider a level 60 maximum level to allow maximum skill points for level 24 and 30 skills.
- Illustrate the existence and use of containers with some screenshots, easily seen from the start page or the download page.
- Illustrate the use of bodyparts with screenshots (before and after pictures), easily seen from the start page or the download page.

Currently the CE homepage only shows latest news and popular, immediately followed by news postings. The homepage would be the best place to explain what CE is, how it was changed and which extras it contains, or should contain a clear link to a page where people new to CE can find this information.

Best regards,
Symfora

Fingerpicker:
Tx for the good work.
I agree in all points, except the last ones:
Theres a guide installed, the readme includes basic infos about where to buy the gembags and what to do with the bodyparts.
Basically i dont understand why the newbies dont use or read that.
Maybe it is necessary to post some pics good visible on chaosempire.info from some rare weapons and armors and an explicit description about how we made this.
Just as examples for what is possible in our Mod.

ZenPdH:
Nice work :)
But i can't agree in all ur points...

1. Stamina
If there is a difference between free and not free, just overread the next lines...
For the first look, it can be very frustrating for allways running out of stamina, no matter if u wear heavy armor or not. But that is the way the game will work for u, if u decide to continue to play the mod. So why should u get a wrong impression of how the game/mod is ment to be?
And u can easily buy some stamina pots (60 gold or whats the price?), thats why they are in the game for exaclty these situations ;D U can also stack them... E.g. u drink 20 of them right after another and u will be able to 'run' for quite a long time, no matter of ur equipment.
(I had to use them in the high lvls (75+) too for my druid, cause he went out off stamina in a blink of an eye ::) )

3. Baal
Never had any (greater) problems with baal...
The only clue is *drums-plz*, to use crushing blow! So if ur char is a caster ur merc should be a fighter (a2 or a5, don't know so much about the rouge and how cb works for her or if she attacks or only runs around :P ), so that u have a minimum of one phys attack. And at lvl 40+ it is not so hard to get items with cb.
I can remember my last times with a barb and an ele-druid... Both times no problem at all and it was not a question of the enpowered life.

4. lvl 50 limit
U can use all skills and see how they the get stronger by putting in more points, so wheres the problem? U will never get them to full strength, even if u set the limit to lvl 60...

Suggestion for 'the lack of info':
Every char can start with a 'mysterious scroll' (right-click to read), on which u can find little info about the containers, tempering, socketing and such usefull things (don't know how much 'space' u have on these scrolls). After u read it u can sell it for ur first stamina pots :P

The thing with the pics or in combination with a guide (first steps in CE) would be a great idea.

ChaosEmpire:
short info...

only max levelö has been changed..result is already known..issues in receipes..seems that only my known receipe is broken..startsets..

so..everything else seems to work fine

and nothing other has been chenged

so baal is as hard as before, run speed is as fast as on donator

semmerl27:
naja.. aber aufgrund des fehlenden Starter Sets... ( z. b. mein sorc schild hatte level anforderung 54) schleicht man doch ziemlich langsam durch die Gegend... ohne die 40% schneller laufen...

und da man ja auf dem Free Real für gewöhnlich immer ohne irgendwelche andere Ausrüstung startet, weil es ja nur zum testen ist, ist es schon ziemlich nervig.. (bin grad mal bis level 9 gekommen und hatte dann keine Lust mehr symfora weiter heldenreich zur Seite zu stehen *g*)

wie schwer oder leicht baal ist, ist natürlich Gefühlssache, aber im Normalfall ist eine Psy Assa total imba und symfora hatte (soweit ich weiß/glaube) mit der Psy Assa in poc nicht mal probleme mit dem Metzger (auf dem member realm) ... und der ist doch (meiner bescheidenen Meinung nach) immerhin um einiges schwerer als Baal in poc...

Ich war auch in dem Spiel als jemand sagte, er schafft es nicht, Baal zu töten... Kanns mir auch ned vorstellen :-/

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