Topic: should i make brand javlins

[decaed_pain]

i want to use them in hand to hand combat(zeal)

see i was thinking that i would get the 100% chance of casting bone spear in striking.
would that do any damage

just wanted to ask see if anyone has tried this befor wasting my time and dolls on brand spears

also off the topic is there any wepon that gives a + to holy shock(for anyone)

[ZenPdH]

I think it makes no sense if u wanna do any extra dmg with the bone spears, cause they will only do an dmg of ~173. So all enemies should be dead in case of zeal, befor one losing half of its hp by the bs

So if only the bs was on ur mind, i think u waste ur runes, but the rw itself isn't that bad. But i'm never have focused on that kind of weapon use, so perhaps anyone else culd help u to find a better alternative :-/

[decaed_pain]

just like i suspected .not worth the time .
see i'm using a chanter and i don't want to go with osirus or drunken fruy
there are too many of them around
currently i use dream+dream+bowel twister (for more holy shock lvl 45 stacked )
most things in normal and nightmare drop dead on the spot
when i get more + to skills i hope this will be the same for hell too
i do about 140k whirlwind damage i think i can get this much higher with a few more soul stones
my skills are only at lvl 53

[Lotus]

if your using WW, you might look into making Faith, WW is Attack ratting based, and Faith is a ranged weapon word that adds 300% AR as well as damage that doesnt change, and resist all, i made one out of a rare winged harpoon i found that added 140s % enhanced damage, max damage and attack rating based on level, gave it a few jawbones, socketed it, made it eth, Isnt that bad of a weapon, but its req level is 77 XX

[ZenPdH]

Didn't saw it befor
Do u want holy shock 'when equipt' as an static aura or do u want it as a skill which u can choose if u want to?

I think u want the last thing. As far as i know no item gives u the ability of using holy shock except as 'when equipt'. If i understand u right u want to incraese the lvl of holy shock with +allskills, right? So i think i have to frustrate u a little more, cause it is not possible


@ Lotus
Instead of jaws u should choose horns for more physdmg. The eledmg which the jaws grant, is in most cases to low to harm the enemy if he is pi (think that was ur intention when u tempered ur harpoon). So a higher physdmg for faster killing non imunes should be more effective.

[Lotus]

I am not sure, but, i think he wants + to skills for Lightning mastery, which would add to Holy Shock Aura when worn, he gets this from Dream ect.

If you had a non class skill, that is to say, "if you want it as a skill which u can choose if u want to" it would not stack with the aura you get from items, so, it would be of no use, at least, this is how it worked in LoD, your best bet, is to use items that add the aura as (worn) with +skills for mastery, and a conviction aura to lower enemy resists. =)

[ZenPdH]

Hmm, i replied to the last sentence of the first post (cause i didn't saw it befor), where he asked for an item with + holy shock.

Sry if i misunderstood that or messed it up a little bit

[Lotus]

It is no problem Zen, i am not even sure if i am right in assuming this is what he is asking or not, it is just the way i took it.

For some reason, i have also been having problems with reading posts, i seem to be able to get the first one ok, or at least most of it, i will scroll down and not see another post, but ill refresh the page and several more will appear...

It does not say they have been made while i was making a post or anything like that, so i know they were there before i made a post.

In other words, i have been having the same problem, i blame my ISP. =)

[decaed_pain]

lotus your bang on the money .
i want skill points to boost my mastery
if i could get holy shock as a non class skill i could get it higher than the stacked
shock i have right now so i would change dream for a + to all skills
but i don't think  there is such an item
but i've tested this build in hell and i'm able to do solo baal runs with it(as long as my merc don't die)
hmm faith javlins sound nice i found a 250% ed javlin rare so i think i'll try that one

[Olfmo]

when you put a runeword into javelins you should be looking for self-refilling ones, because without that your javelins willbe empty soon and they are pretty expensive to repair (over one million sometimes, and that's even in ce much money )

[ZenPdH]

He wanted to use it for zeal and/or ww, so the javs wouldn't be empty so fast.
So u are right olfmo, if he wants to save money he should look after self-refill.

But if he finds one with very high ed without self-refill he should take them anyway, cause he don't throw them.

[decaed_pain]

i have no need for self refill as i never throw one.like i said i'm not a fury thrower(like all the other sorcs)
this sorc has 2 soul stones now and can kill dc in hell with ease
i have changed my mind i already have the bowel twister
if i change this weapon damage will be lowered by 40 or 50 k i can't do that