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Comments:Chaos Empire introduces more value for members
symfora:
Hi,
I don't feel comfortable with the split up into two realms, mainly because the free public realm could become as laggy as blizzard's bnet, a huge reason why so many people have joined CCC recently. Future CE newbies will play on a laggy server with huge queues or no games to finish quests, with only those that didn't move to the new realm. This will certainly not be very stimulating for people new to CE, and based on these conditions they are less likely to become members. (in fact you just created 4 realms: 2 SC and 2 HC realms, which fragments the community even more.)
• During the last couple of days I lost items on several occasions. I lost a SOE that I traded, ~119 perfect sapphires (empty bag in inventory), a casket with 90 souls (all of these dissappeard from NuxV character) and on at least 5 (five!) occassions I lost hours and hours of gambling simply because the character or mule didn't have the items after joining another game (several high end items).
The shared stash in single player mode, with many pages, would not have wasted my time.
• This week I witnessed two server crashes, which made it impossible to use the character for hours.
• I think the membership fee of 30 euros is quite steep compared to the 1 euro per month suggested before, especially since many of the current people will start paying now, just to play on the new realm.
• Most of the people I used to play with, or talk to, already moved to the new realm, or consider doing so.
• A donator should not have to play on a laggy server to continue using his characters on the public realm.
All of this has made me quite frustrated and on the brink of quiting online CE gaming.
Personally I would prefer this alternative: allow people to play for two months for free on a single realm, freeze their account after two months unless or until they contribute a donation. This way everyone in the CE community gets to interact, allowing new users to play on relatively lagfree servers, along with more seasoned players. I believe that two months will be enough for anyone to evaluate the game, gameplay, community and encourage them to contribute if they want to continue playing. Also the continued arrival of new users will be more interesting for the older bunch. A closed realm without fresh blood may turn out to be rather short lived.
Please reconsider.
Last but not least, I expect that donators will be able to create and use multiple accounts on the new realm?
DrowElf:
--- Quote from: symfora on July 10, 2006, 03:52:56 pm ---...
• During the last couple of days I lost items on several occasions. I lost a SOE that I traded, ~119 perfect sapphires (empty bag in inventory), a casket with 90 souls (all of these dissappeard from NuxV character) and on at least 5 (five!) occassions I lost hours and hours of gambling simply because the character or mule didn't have the items after joining another game (several high end items).
The shared stash in single player mode, with many pages, would not have wasted my time.
...
Last but not least, I expect that donators will be able to create and use multiple accounts on the new realm?
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The loss of items after gambling is mostly depending on the Diablo2 hardcoded max. savegame size. You can get problems in singleplayer modus, too, if the charsize get to big.
For the Online-Players the max. file size is 8k, you can check if you come close to these size everytime with these link: http://chaosempire.info/8k.txt
And no, Donators are not allowed to create multilpe accounts on the new Realm. They can use one on the public Realm (like before) and the new one for the Donator Realm.
webwalker:
--- Quote from: symfora on July 10, 2006, 03:52:56 pm ---I don't feel comfortable with the split up into two realms, mainly because the free public realm could become as laggy as blizzard's bnet
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This point is addressed by the existence of the pay-to-play donator's realm. Lag on the free server is a self-imposed grief. 5 Euro/month is about what Runescape costs, it is about what other good pay-to-play realms cost; if free D2LOD is better than free CE, then play on blizzards' net. If CE is better, then play free with "freeloader lag" (it's NOT "not enough servers" lag, it's "freeloader lag"), or donate and play on the donator's server.
--- Quote from: symfora on July 10, 2006, 03:52:56 pm ---a huge reason why so many people have joined CCC recently.
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If blizzard players came to CE because the freeloading is better, they'll be disappointed. However, I think your assertion is in error from the ground up: People come here because of the BEHAVIOR (attitude) of the blizzard-net players, and because of the QUALITY of the CE MOD.
--- Quote from: symfora on July 10, 2006, 03:52:56 pm ---Future CE newbies will play on a laggy server with huge queues or no games to finish quests, with only those that didn't move to the new realm.
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Donators can have two accounts: one of the free server and one on the Donator's server. So you'll met donators everywhere.
--- Quote from: symfora on July 10, 2006, 03:52:56 pm ---This will certainly not be very stimulating for people new to CE, and based on these conditions they are less likely to become members. (in fact you just created 4 realms: 2 SC and 2 HC realms, which fragments the community even more.)
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What stimulated me was the improved quality of the MOD, and the improved quality of the members.
--- Quote from: symfora on July 10, 2006, 03:52:56 pm ---• I think the membership fee of 30 euros is quite steep compared to the 1 euro per month suggested before, especially since many of the current people will start paying now, just to play on the new realm.
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The price of 30 euro/year (2.5 euro/month) won't chase away anybody that didn't donate 1/month before, so nothing is lost there. You're asserting that the 2.5 euro/month price will chace away some who could afford 1/month but can't afford 2.5/month. Somebody THAT pinched for cash needs to get working, and stop crying about the price of playing games!
--- Quote from: symfora on July 10, 2006, 03:52:56 pm ---• Most of the people I used to play with, or talk to, already moved to the new realm, or consider doing so.
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Is Joe's efforts (and his paying out of his pocket so you can enjoy the fruit of his skull-sweat) worth a few beers a month? I don't drink, so I send money (5 Euro/month) to support the realm. There is no drug in the world as cheap and as addicting as this game. Send 5 Euro/month and get on the Donator's server. The free server is then a "try before you buy" place.
--- Quote from: symfora on July 10, 2006, 03:52:56 pm ---• A donator should not have to play on a laggy server to continue using his characters on the public realm.
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Play hardcore for a while, and the notion of restarting characters won't bother you so much.
--- Quote from: symfora on July 10, 2006, 03:52:56 pm ---All of this has made me quite frustrated and on the brink of quiting online CE gaming.
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Frustration arises from ont getting what you want from a person over whom you don't have authority.
Play offline for a while, come back and re-check the online world.
--- Quote from: symfora on July 10, 2006, 03:52:56 pm ---Personally I would prefer this alternative: allow people to play for two months for free on a single realm, freeze their account after two months unless or until they contribute a donation. This way everyone in the CE community gets to interact, allowing new users to play on relatively lagfree servers, along with more seasoned players. I believe that two months will be enough for anyone to evaluate the game, gameplay, community and encourage them to contribute if they want to continue playing. Also the continued arrival of new users will be more interesting for the older bunch. A closed realm without fresh blood may turn out to be rather short lived.
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This notion is that there is only one realm, the pay-to-play realm, with "guest memberships" for newbies. I like it.
I'd add a suggestion to make the characters ALL ladder characters, and dump hardcore (change death penalty in softcore to be more intense), so that we're more likely to interact. This suggestion comes from my American location: I play alone when online almost all the time because there aren't other games, let alone games that I could join and complete quests.
--- Quote from: symfora on July 10, 2006, 03:52:56 pm ---Last but not least, I expect that donators will be able to create and use multiple accounts on the new realm?
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1 account (18 characters) suffices.
Fingerpicker:
Theres an easy way do avoid lags:
Dont make Games like "asdasd" because no one knows what will happen in this game and no one will ever enter such a Game.
Dont make 10 Games named "Mule", and try to enter games to quest in party. (which is a basic part of CE)
If there are average ~5 Poeple in one game it wont be laggy...
And last not least: Why should we use more than one account???
rallemod:
Hi Joe,
ich habe jetzt einen Dauerauftrag eingerichtet und einen kleinen Betrag sofort überwiesen. Ich möchte jetzt hier nicht reinschreiben, wie viel ich als Dauerauftrag eingerichtet habe.
Kann ich dann wieder ein Spiel erstellen oder muss ich weiterhin in andere Games gehen? Die wenigsten in HC sind glücklich darüber, wenn man in ihr CGS- Game einsteigt, wenn dann überhaupt ein CGS spiel besteht.
Das bedeutet für mich, ich spende, kann aber nicht spielen.
Was muss ich also als nächstes machen, damit das weitergeht?
Danke
Rallemod
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