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Summon Golem Not Working....
« on: March 24, 2006, 04:51:55 am »
Ok on the changes to the game it lists able to summon multiple golems... Ive seen necros do this in game and some non-necros summon two golems at a time.

When my necro tries it the first one summoned dies when trying to conjure the second one.

Why won't it work for me?  Is there some secret button im not pressing? Help?
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2006, 07:23:46 am »
The Necromancer could get a max. of 7! Golems at once. You get an additional Golem for every 20 invested skillpoint in any of the Golems. As example 5 in iron golem, 10 in fire golem, 4 in blood golem and 1 in the first golem (i don´t know the name at the moment) makes you able to cast 2 Golems at all. I play a poison golem nec at the moment and walk through Lets Rock with 3 Golems. :)

But that non necros can cast more than one would be new to me.

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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2006, 11:16:17 am »
Golem's Gain
Gothic Plate
Defense: 51 - 54
Durability: 55
Required Strength: 70
Level Required: 26
120% - 200% Enhanced Defense
25 to Strength
8 to Golem Mastery
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With this armor you can cast 2 Golems (Clay and/or Blood) when you have not skilled Clay Golem. The Level 30 Charges work as invested skillpoints.

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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2006, 01:30:16 pm »
ok..seemst that i need to fix a bug...i hate charges...


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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2006, 10:17:11 pm »
For me it started with the same problem as Darkkatgirl. But after i put quite a few more points into the whole "golem category" im now the happy owner of multiple golems..and might i add, they rule.

Just thought it would be nice with some input from differ users >)

hint hint/  use mudd golem always :)


Now that we are in the whole gole/summon category. Could it be possible to make a screen for lets say merc(1) and/or summons. so to see their info such as resist/max hp/mana etc? I was thinking it could be a 4th page in the "Character (A) (C)"
I dont know how hard it would be to make it such, but worth a look into it, as i for one always ponder how much resist my summons run around with.

(1) Yes i do know the merc has his own whole page (O) but still it could/would be neat with it on those same pages as summons/followers.

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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2006, 06:19:00 am »
@getfuzzy

No it makes sense, also don't forget about the girls, would be nice to see what your Valk and Shadow Master  has for stats too.  Golem mancer now seems very viable for a class now... now only if you could play a female necromancer ^,^
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2006, 07:12:08 pm »
hehe female necromancer.. that could and would be quite fun.. aslong as nobody asks for a "male amazon" im all up for it ;)

Tho a female barb.. auch That would scare off even the best of romeo.. hehe
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2006, 08:32:22 am »
Well female barbarian would be like Grace Jones in that Conan movie hehe (yes i know she is more like an amazon but :-p )

Im sure some guys wouldn't mind playing a male assassin or sorc either.

Just little things that would make the game so much nicer ^.^
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2006, 01:44:18 pm »
Guys Trying to do several things with this post.

@CE
Remember if it ant broke fix. IF the bug lets use have several golins, how about letting us have more than one merc in SP. I can understand how on line it would not be good.

This golin thing is dorta like the doll stash. You have to use skill points to get more golins, quite a few. (30) With the doll stash you have to add a large number of dolls of all sorts to get several different bennies / extra skills or bonouses. [Miss spelled words are of coarse free}

As for this sex change thing? ??? It would requirer some graphics work simular to the Nude Assisan add on. This brings some strange images to mind. a female bard is not too bad, but a bude barb running around, hanging out. BRRRR, to easy to lose all.
Pls to not let this happen.

Still having problems with the new quest, but I will try again in a few days. Right now I dumbed out a little and need to beaway from the mod. Still a great mod Joe. Keep it up.
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2006, 05:33:07 pm »
@bdpf

I wouldnt think it would require much graphics editing seeing as your not changing how they look just swapping the dolls they use for characters.

Example

Using the current sorceress "doll" but your playing a druid under the surface.

Im not a programmer but im guessing it would be like instead of loading current "doll" for necromancer, now game loads assassin doll but you have all abilities etc of necromancer but you look like assassin to world (but cant use katars)
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2006, 05:48:50 pm »
only thing i assume is to make something like the morph amulet what transfers your visible part into another..but where is the benefit..
ok..a "gay" pala looks now like a well trained assassin :)


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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2006, 04:43:35 am »
@ CE

Not a benefit, but a cosmetic change to enhance game play by giving the player further customization of the "doll" they play.  It will not hinder game balance but let people have fun playing a Zon looking barb or a Barb looking druid etc.

I dont know how this will work if it is ever made.  I know there used to be "boss change ammys" but those wreaked havoc upon the servers from what I hear.  But they were fun no?  Maybe could use the UBER dolls (like barb doll to make barb ammy). 

Anyway still a fun game!  Thanks CE!!!
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2006, 07:10:08 am »
@CE

Interesting concept .... a gay pala (i know he runs and stands alittle funny) how about a homo barb? running like a paladin! :D that would be sooo funny. away.  So if a necro max out golem with 30pts he can summons 2 golems .... i have to try that.
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2006, 09:45:08 am »
the issue will be the graphcs..not every char has same animations..so same like with morph amulets..crash risk..so fun about thinking..but playing without it


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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2006, 05:30:38 pm »
@ CE yeah I figured the ones that would give most trouble would be barb (if using two weapons) and assassin (for katars) I dont think the other dolls have animations for that.  Yeah I know it probably wont happen but a girl can dream ^.^ 

Also for the golem issue.  It seems like only actual stat points count towards adding another golem and charges.  How come + to summon skills do not count towards new golems?
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2006, 06:55:06 pm »
@ Darkkatgirl, its true the + to golems dosent have any affect to how many you can actual summon.
The only way to affect it is, to spend your avalible and in most cases hardearned skillpoints :P
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2006, 07:40:29 pm »
she asked why, that it is like that she found out alone :)


i'd say it is the same like e.g. battle command
the skill has a bonus but not for another skill but for itself

so with every x points (in that case 20, 5 with battle command) it improves the spell itself

i hope i explained it understandable, it's not so easy in english^^

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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2006, 07:50:21 pm »
well english aint my main language neither, so misunderstandings e.x might occour.. hehe :D
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2006, 09:06:25 pm »
It seems like only actual stat points count towards adding another golem and charges.  How come + to summon skills do not count towards new golems?

Power balancing is the reason.  +skill items can be found on the order of 30, rather simply.  I've seen level 100 B.O. before.  If this counted as 100 synergy levels for skills strengthened by B.O., then the problem is one of two choices:
1: The game is toughened to be a challenge for people with 30+ synergies in all skills, leaving uber-item-less players hopeless, or
2: the game is a yawn and a breeze when we acquire the Ubers.

Solution: only hard skill points count for synergies, and for counting the number of golems you can summon.

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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2006, 10:36:21 pm »
seems that i understand why i cant find a girlfriend :P girls dream about 2handed d2 chars...

ok..back to reality :P yes, onl yinvested skillpoints count for the amount of golems


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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2006, 07:42:38 am »
I have the same problem CE, i should drop my shield and go two handed
and carry dual ---<---@, my barb Mr_Mud might find darkkatgirl sometime
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2006, 04:43:48 pm »
I feel like this belong in the summon golem thread.
Im justwondering, is it on purpose that its not possible to summon a Metal golem out of bows and that like, or is it because it was forgotten ?
If one read the info about a metal golem, one should think that it would be possible to summon one out of a bow or such since its just as much a weapon made out of wood and metal etc. that the others are. :)

Im just pondering about it.
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2006, 05:01:50 pm »
I guess, a question for our MODerator (Joe), are classes of items marked "can/can't" for making an Iron Golem of this item type?  If not, we're stuck with the division between those that can be I.G. and those that can't.  Changing the name to "item golem" would work for me, though I sure there are better names.

my I.G. gripe: they evaporate for no (apparent) good reason.  Can they be made to teleport to the necro when they're near the end of their leash?

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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2006, 05:17:10 pm »
@ Webwalker

One could only hope for minion tele, not just for golem but for ALL minions and no walk for any only RUN.  Also they disable walking to you when there is an enemy and instead attack the enemy.    Maybe even have "minion directional controls and aura activate button" on keypad.  But from discussions with CE, thats hard coded from blizzard and he needs some Hackers/Programmers to help with blizzards mistakes.
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Re: Summon Golem Not Working....
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2006, 05:30:36 pm »
@ Darkkatgirl a good idea indeed, taking into considderation that once you get too far from your own summons (skelies and mages/revives) They die if they're in a fight and you run away too far from them.
Or so i've noticed quite alot.
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